More power to them. It is a great pleasure to welcome to LARRY KING LIVE Dale Cochran, the widow of the famed attorney, the late Johnnie Cochran. Even as a child, he had loved to argue, and in high school he excelled in debate. But the bottom line question is: While we're waiting ten years to find out whether radiating RFs into the head (or the area adjacent to the genitals) is good or bad, should we suffer the inconvenience of minimizing cell phone use? So just to go through what we know, we know that the type of radio frequency that comes from cell phones is very different from what comes from an X-Ray or a nuclear bomb. All Rights Reserved. That is what they recommend. But, more importantly, my particular interest is to accelerate discoveries in the treatment of brain tumors, which is why I am so happy that we've established the Johnny Cochran Brain Tumor Center. Simpson of the murder, he was ordered to surrender by 11 am on june 17 Simpson did not surrender vanished, but was tracked down later in the day when he made a call from his cell phone on the Santana Ana freeway. He was 67. This was the mid'80s. Before dying, Cochran said he thought his cell phone caused his brain cancer. What's known about the impact of RF on human tissue?" Then, on October 15, 1995, the jury returned the not guilty verdict that divided the nation. Hardly anyone ever reads these safety manuals. And there are 16 really good studies out there, a few since 2000. Cochran is survived by his second wife, Dale Mason; his son, Jonathan Cochran, from a prior relationship; his daughters Tiffany Cochran Edwards and Melodie Cochran, from his first marriage; and sisters Pearl Baker and Martha Jean Sherrard. BLACK: Larry, typically no. In 1994, Cochran joined Alan Dershowitz, F. Lee Bailey, Robert Shapiro, Barry Scheck and Robert Kardashian to form the core of the so-called dream team of lawyers hired to defend athlete/actor O.J. It's a form of energy. D. COCHRAN: On a regular basis, yes. How profound it is, is a little bit harder to say. GUPTA: They come with the phone. .css-m6thd4{-webkit-text-decoration:none;text-decoration:none;display:block;margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;font-family:Gilroy,Helvetica,Arial,Sans-serif;font-size:1.125rem;line-height:1.2;font-weight:bold;color:#323232;text-transform:capitalize;}@media (any-hover: hover){.css-m6thd4:hover{color:link-hover;}}Ken Starr. What indication did he give you that something was wrong? KING: No? Also, these brain cells -- cancer cells can migrate. In April 2004, Cochran underwent surgery, which led to his staying away from the media. ", The case quickly became a media circus, set in motion with the televised police pursuit of a white Ford Bronco on a Los Angeles freeway. It gives you an opportunity to do interesting things. Furthermore, this is the public position of leading health organizations, such as the United States Food and Drug Administration, the FDA, the American Cancer Society, ACS, and the World Health Organization, WHO. KHURANA: I do, Larry. If that makes sense to you, then, (according to an electrical occupational engineer with whom I spoke) you can minimize risk by doing any or all of the following: Turn off your cell phone when not in useNever sleep with your cell phone in the bedroomAvoid using your cell phone (or keeping it turned on) in the car, or for that matter, any other self-enclosed metal container If you feel your head heating up, end the call (even if you're speaking to your beloved, boss, or mother)Use some form of headphone or earjack but not a blue tooth, which places the transistor right in your earLive in an area out of reach of cell phone service, And hey, let's not forget mobile telephones, internet wireless, and all those other technological goodies we've gotten so addicted to that life wouldn't be complete without them. Yes, Johnnie Cochran, of O.J. And my concern is that with the widespread use of cell phones, I think the worst scenario would be that we get the definitive study ten years from now and we find there's a correlation. GUPTA: Well, some of the studies that we've been talking about so far this hour talk about this specific sort of tumor and it's possible association here. -- Dr. Black. Cochran died in Los Angeles March 29, 2005 after a long illness. We strive for accuracy and fairness.If you see something that doesn't look right,contact us! And I think that there's enough sort of concern out there to at least prompt people to think more about how they use their cell phones, using earpieces, keeping it further away from the ear and things like that. We know that it causes lung cancer by the statistical rate. And I think as part of that question, the World Health Organization has come to a point where it agreed about a decade ago -- or over a decade ago -- to host the Interphone Study Group. So it's possible for a cell to get an injury and then migrate to a different location within the brain, as well. Dale Cochran's First Interview Since the Death of Her Husband Johnnie; Is There a Link Between Cell Phones and Cancer? When a patient comes to the surgery, the focus is not what caused it. So, you know, as I said in the beginning, at this point, we cannot say with any certainty that cell phones either are safe or not safe. Cochran, is perhaps best known for representing former football star Simpson during his trial on They may be using cordless phones as well, which we also know are risk factors based on data. Go ahead. Yes. Dale Cochran will be joining us later on. Jeff and Laura, your prizes are in the mail. Simpson in his trial for the murders of his wife Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend Ron Goldman. And part of that's due to Dr. Black, because I talked to him a couple of years ago about this and KING: Really? And congratulations to Jeff in Freemont, Nebraska. D. COCHRAN: Attach an earpiece immediately. And thanks to his showmanship and the notoriety of the trial, Cochran was widely lampooned on late-night talk shows, "Saturday Night Live" and "Seinfeld. (END VIDEO CLIP) KING: Sanjay Gupta joins us. Well, let's break it down a little. D. COCHRAN: Yes, I think people are concerned. What do you base it on? KING: Use it? Web of Spider-Man 95 Spirits of Venom Ghost Rider Johnny Blaze LOT C5 Sold by blombo | Ends on 2023-03-05 21:39:07 . That's ahead on LARRY KING LIVE. KING: So are you going to instruct the patient of your BLACK: I've instructed Dale D. COCHRAN: Oh, yes. His clients also included Haitian immigrant Abner Louima, who was tortured by New York police, and Tyisha Miller, a 19-year-old black woman shot to death by Riverside police who said she reached for a gun on her lap when they broke her car window in an effort to disarm her. Do you think we'll have a statistical rate to link these two? D. COCHRAN: Cedars-Sinai Johnny Cochran Brain Tumor Center. Our results suggest an association between cellular phone use and prodded gland tumors." BLACK: I KING: I said Dane and it's Dale. Simpson was found not guilty of murder. Are you more confused when you listen to the two doctors? As a youth, Cochran idolize Thurgood Marshall, the attorney who persuaded the U.S. Supreme Court to outlaw school segregation in the 1954 Brown vs. Board of Education decision and who would eventually become the Supreme Court's first black justice. I think everybody on this program has agreed that using a headset is really the right way to go. And, two, how far along has the industry evolved? Dr. Black mentioned that some of the studies are actually looking at the cell phone usage found. Gender. 1-800 And I would under -- I would hope that most people are aware of what that is. And his doctor says cell phones may have played a part in his disease. BLACK: Later, as part of an experimental protocol, we went in and did surgery, yes. And this is not implying that every brain tumor is the result of this. It used to come in a bag. Their conclusion: we just don't know. His magic worked. He's Australia's -- the head of the Interphone arm that is incorporating Australian research. Time now for Anderson Cooper and "A.C. 360" -- Anderson. WebTuesday, Apr. Biography and associated logos are trademarks of A+E Networksprotected in the US and other countries around the globe. WebJohnnie Cochran lost his fight against brain cancer earlier this year. I don't know anyone who didn't like him -- defense attorneys who opposed him, prosecutors D. COCHRAN: Oh, yes. What do you make of it? But there have been other studies to show no correlation. Things were changing, the size of the phone, the quality of the phone, but also the amount of radiation it gave off. KING: What was the treatment? He remained a beloved figure in the black community, admired as a lawyer who was relentless in his pursuit of justice and as a philanthropist who helped fund a UCLA scholarship, a low-income housing complex and a New Jersey legal academy, among other charitable endeavors. KING: When something happens like to Senator Ted Kennedy, that focuses more effort on it, doesn't it, more attention? And, so, you are sort of asking for a definite answer to state where the science is quite indefinite. D. COCHRAN: That's all right. BLACK: the side that you develop a brain tumor on. In an interview with the New York Post last September, he said, "I'm feeling pretty good" and described himself as "90 percent" improved. As Dr. Gupta has pointed out, their quantification of what constitutes regular use is itself quite alarming. Some studies found a problem, while others did not. So we don't know what long-term effects that will have on memory as our young adults age and other KING: So this is a cause of concern? BLACK: Again, I think the emissions from cordless phones in the house are very low, and I would be less concerned with those than cell phones. KING: Somebody is scared. That's the founding editor and publisher of Microwave News, maybe the major publication in this field. But, basically, this is a tumor of the inner ear and -- there you go, Larry. Most of them, if you really dissect it down, they really only follow the patients along for just a few years. By the time Simpson was acquitted, Cochran and co-counsel Shapiro were on the outs. Last month, the Supreme Court heard oral argument in the First Amendment case of Tory v. Cochran. Simpson, who had expanded his career to acting since retiring from the NFL, was arrested in the summer of 1994 on charges he murdered his ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson (search), and her friend Ron Goldman (search ). ``I don't know why he turned against me, why he cut me off, why he would want to see me hurt,'' a tearful He specifies glioma, a primary brain tumor, cancer, acoustic neuroma and prodded gland tumors. Simpson, meanwhile, was held liable for the killings following a 1997 civil trial and ordered to pay the Brown and Goldman families $33.5 million in restitution. BLACK: We were actually, Larry, close friends. Do you see, Dale, as a lay person, the possibility of cell phone use and Johnnie's illness? And it was unrelated to the subsequent tumor that he developed. This is a phone people probably became most familiar with. Powered and implemented by FactSet Digital Solutions. We could barely find them in the stores but he had one on and Johnny would say, listen if Dr. Black is wearing an ear piece, we should also. GUPTA: It's hard to say. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If it is conclusive that it can cause brain tumors, then I think there should be some sort of a warning. In 1966, a Black motorist named Leonard Deadwyler, while attempting to get his pregnant wife to a hospital, was killed by police officer Jerold Bova. Third, we know that the studies that have been done on brain cancer, and I'm going to distinguish brain cancer from acoustic neuroma, have largely been reassuring. The industry supports continued research as technology continues to evolve, but wishes to stress the fact that there is a consensus among leading health organizations regarding published scientific research showing no reason for concern." Santa Rita has a higher jail death rate than Los Angeles Here is a look at the people who died: 2014: 10 DEATHS. If you look at some of the studies that have been performed -- I mean one of the studies that is very concerning has been a story out of Europe that looked at a long-term exposure to the use of cell phones over a period of 10 years. KING: When they see keep it in the holster, that means keep it away from your body. And if there is a potential cause out there, we need to seriously look into it. So my point is this, that, you know, if you read the studies alone, they'll say they're safe. KING: You are watching LARRY KING LIVE. Your Privacy Choices: Opt Out of Sale/Targeted Ads, Name: Johnnie Cochran, Birth Year: 1937, Birth date: October 2, 1937, Birth State: Louisiana, Birth City: Shreveport, Birth Country: United States. They do give off less radiation than a cell phone, but wearing it all the time could be a problem. And I think when I had kids, I became more interested in it, frankly. WebLego 41027 - Der TOP-Favorit unserer Produkttester. We'll have a quick vote. BLACK: I actually received a call from Johnnie's assistant, as Dale indicated, concerned about his difficulty with memory and also some difficulty with speech. More studies are needed. DR. VINI KHURANA, NEUROSURGEON, THE CANBERRA HOSPITAL: I base it on the fact, Larry, that at this point in time, there's just over three billion users of cell phones worldwide. DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, you know, it's interesting, because you look at all the studies out there and most people will say, look, I mean they're fine. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Cigarettes have surgeon generals warning on them. I do not hold it to my ear. KING: One type of tumor often mentioned in the discussion of potential risk of cell phones is acoustic neuroma. And the other doctors will remain and he will return with Dale Cochran. KING: Let's watch. If cell phone use was a factor, wouldn't there be evidence on that side?" And, you know, if people use their cell phones for years and years and kids start using them, they're going to use them their whole lifetime. KING: I want you look at something on the screen now. Dr. Gupta is at the big board again with some tips on safer cell phone use. D. COCHRAN: I got concerned right away that he couldn't remember my telephone number. Weekly Auction ends Monday February 27!. The different studies produced different results, canceling each other out. KING: So do Dale and Dr. Black think there's a link between cell phones and Johnnie Cochran's brain tumor? For a time, he represented high-profile athletes and music stars in contract matters. OK, let's move to the subject at hand. BLACK: Headaches. So I guess it's your call! KING: Thanks, Sanjay. This was a phone from 1983. He still lives with me. We don't know about thresholds. So that -- you know, that option wasn't one of the weapons that we could use to fight the tumor. It's hard to say. GUPTA: Yes, I do. These docs commented on the "Interphone study" in which thirty-five researchers from all over the world sought to correlate cell phone use with brain cancer incidence. Every morning when I get up, when I look at all the choices of things I could be, I love being a lawyer. Yet more controversy followed the lawyer when items from his personal life were publicly revealed. GUPTA: It's interesting. Cochran challenged police claims that Settles hanged himself in jail after a speeding arrest. So we're really talking about a very different type of emission that is sort of the halfway between an FM radio and the microwave. In 1978, Cochran once again became part of the citys legal force when he joined the Los Angeles County district attorney's office, although he eventually returned to private practice. Were cell phones to blame? Joining us now from Washington, Dr. Michael Thun of the American Cancer Society, vice president of epidemiology and surveillance. 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